Three Card Poker by the Wizard of Odds
Reddit - todayilearned - TIL when using "perfect strategy" in blackjack, the casino only has a 2% edge over the player in the long run.
Due to some players playing with their instincts versus the math behind wizard of odds blackjack sheet strategy, the casino can gain 10 times their original advantage.
The information in the link is good, but they don't actually give you a basic strategy chart which is what it's actually called, not perfect strategy.
If you follow that chart, which is easy to learn if you look at the trends source it, you can make the mathematically correct decision for every situation.
Edit: Also, because there is always someone at the table who has never hear of surrender: most casinos allow you to forfeit half your bet to "surrender" the hand.
You can only do this on your first two cards, and some casinos don't let you surrender against a dealers ace.
The signal to surrender is to point one finger down on the table and draw a horizontal line.
I don't really understand the rules of blackjack.
What does it mean if you double or split?
Aces are worth 1 or 11.
If you have 2 of the same card a pair you can 'split'.
You move them apart, and get dealt another card for each of them.
Suddenly you are playing two hands instead of one.
Hit means you take another card, you can do this as much as you want until you 'bust' go over 21.
These are called soft hands, and example being soft 15 ace-5.
Hard hands mean the value is fixed, like if you had 10-5.
Note that not all hands with an ace in them are soft wizard of odds blackjack sheet />If you have soft 14 ace-3and you hit and get a 9, you now have hard 13 because treating the ace as 11 would put you over 21, so you can't.
There are five actions you can take with your hand: Stand: Accept your hand as is with no more cards.
The signal for this is to wave your open hand over your cards.
Hit: Take one more card.
To signal this, tap or scratch the table with your fingers.
Double: You increase your bet up to doubling it's amount you can do less if you wantand you get one and only one more card.
The gesture for this is to place the amount you want to add to the left of your bet.
Split only if you have a opinion probability and statistics blackjack think : You split your hand into two, placing an equal bet on your new hand.
So if you have 88 and you split, you will dealt two new cards so you are now playing 8X and 8Y.
These hands are treated like normal hands, with the exception that some casinos don't allow you to hit on the hands created by splitting aces.
The gesture for this is place your additional bet on the table and make an "opening scissors" motion with your fingers.
Surrender: explained above Also, when the dealer is showing an ace or 10, the dealer will offer you "insurance".
This is an opportunity to make a side bet that the dealer DOES have blackjack.
If you have a blackjack they will offer you "even money", instead of the usual 1.
Insurance is a bad bet and you shouldn't take it.
It's pretty easy actually.
You're dealt 7 cards and you have to make two poker hands out of them The top hand you use two cards even if they don't make anything and with the remaining five you make a normal poker hand.
The bottom hand 5 cards has to have a higher value than the top hand so you can't put a pair in your top hand and have say just an ace high in your bottom hand.
Pai Gow the proper one is awesome.
It's the only table game I play now.
It does feel weird being the only white person at the table though.
Like the poker variant you make a high and low hand.
But instead of making poker hands it is more akin to baccarat where the objective is to get a points total of as close to 9.
There are other hands which are higher like pairs and things called wongs and gongs.
Takes a little while to learn because the tiles have a ranking e.
It also has a relatively low house edge.
These 1-2% advantages are all it actually takes for it to become, for all intents and purposes, impossible for players to "break the bank" in any given game.
That is to say, if you were to play until either you or the house has no more money, then you will always end up broke unless you start with something like 90% or more of the total money between you and the house, in which case what are go here doing in a casino, Bill?
The only way to walk away with winnings is to actually walk away when you are ahead.
Of course, if you count cards in blackjack then you can actually end up with the advantage yourself, and could theoretically take all of the house's money if you continued playing for a sufficiently long time.
They'd of course kick you out pretty quickly, plus they use multiple decks and crazy stuff to stop card-counting.
The 1-2% advantage still allows for some winnings if you back out at the right time, though.
There is actually a foolproof way to make money using this, with online casinos who offer a "deposit match".
This is where the casino, to encourage people to sign up, will offer to double up the deposits of new customers, up to a certain amount.
So if you deposit £200 with the casino, your initial balance will be £400.
Obviously they're not just going to let you withdraw £400 right away, the snag is that you have to wager a certain amount on the tables before you are eligible to withdraw it.
The key is to play the perfect blackjack strategy and loose as little as possible until you have wagered enough to be eligible for the withdrawal.
My housemate made £185 this way.
Only thing is, it takes ages.
Probably not worth it if your time is valuable, but if you're a bored college student or something it makes sense.
First time playing blackjack I authoritative blackjack one liners apologise even know what my total was before the dealer took my cards away.
Sometimes split 8s and never split 10 or equiv.
With that advice, you should do pretty damn well at blackjack : You wouldn't hit a 15 against a 10?
I've always hit 16 and under against a 7 or higher.
Side note, it may click at this page mathematically be a good idea, but a drunk man once told me to always double 11s.
It usually works out.
Doubling 11s is probably the most mathematically sound decision you can make at a blackjack table.
Unless it's a blackjack, then what the hell are you doing.
Also you're right about hitting 16 and under.
People give me weird looks when I double 11 against a 10.
It works out in my favor slightly more than 50% of the time I have no idea how often it works out.
Feels awesome when it works.
Ah, then right you are for that rule set.
I was assuming Vegas rules where the dealer hits on soft 17.
Also, Wizard of Odds is awesome.
If you're in Vegas or somewhere that uses Vegas rules.
Doubling anything against a 10 is technically "against the chart" but I always double on 11 except against an ace.
I like to live dangerously.
If you really want to win anything playing blackjack, you have to win a few doubles.
When the dealer is showing a 6 or a 5 and I have a soft 16 or 17 where one card is an ace I always double.
When the dealer is showing 6 it's actually advantageous to double any soft hand all the way up to 19.
Doubling on a 19 gets you some funny looks, but math doesn't lie.
Yes, this is correct.
If the dealer stands on 17, and you have less than 17 against a 10, you hit.
You cannot win a hand under 18 if the dealer doesn't bust.
However, I don't remember what up card you hit with a 16, 7 sounds right.
Rule one is solid.
Rule two is half-true.
Drinking will make you play dumb, but you're at a casino, that's fine.
Don't go to a casino to win.
Casinos wouldn't exist if winning was an option.
Came here to say points 1 and 2.
My college took us to a local casino for our Senior Week celebrations, and I sat down at a blackjack table, figured I'd play until I lost what I came to play and enjoy free drinks all the while.
Free drinks took forever actually never got thembut sober me wound up going up in blackjack, a lot.
The most important point here is that sober me knew when to walk away; drunk me would've played until I was out of money Not sure if you took that to mean splitting 5,5 or 10,10, but you never do either.
You don't split 5,5 because a 10 is good hand to hit or double from, and splitting could easily land you two 15s.
You don't split 10,10 because you have 20 and are likely to win.
No reason to risk your winning hand on a split that could land you two bad hands.
I'm with you on the first two rules, but the rest could be improved.
Rule number one is the most important one if you're going to gamble.
Use disposable money and make sure there is not one single way to get more money: Leave credit cards or debit cards at home, only have that amount of money cash in your pocket and make sure that your friends or whoever you're with know what your limit is and wizard of odds blackjack sheet the incentive to stop you if you try to get a loan somewhere.
This is clearly bullshit by virtue of basic math.
Making a poor decision will "fuck it up for everyone" equally as often as it saves your hand.
My first and only time at the casino, I played BJ with as close to perfect strategy as I could memorize in the go here car ride.
I've seen some websites claim with perfect strategy, the house advantage can be less than 1%.
Table rules can easily affect the advantage.
Stay far far far away from tables paying 6:5 Odds in the craps, according the chart, nearly drops to 0% advantage when 10x original bet!
Plus Craps is so much more fun with a full table and a good roller.
Craps is the only game I'll play and I don't think I have ever lost money playing.
Just stay away from the bets in red!
To be fair though, if you only go by mathematical probability you're going to be pretty bored.
Nothing wrong with losing a little money if you have a good time in the process.
But on the other hand, I can win and have an even better time!!
Even using basic strategy on every hand you're still at a disadvantage so you're not winning, you're just losing more slowly.
I have fun because of the other gamblers.
After a while of giving money away assuming everyone is good natured everybody becomes friendly and it's just a small party.
Playing on a European roulette wheel with just one 'zero' square gives the casino a 2.
Every single game in the casino has better odds for the house than the visitor.
That's why they're in the casino.
The house wins are guaranteed, but it doesn't mean they have better odds than the visitor.
If you are halfway decent at poker and visit a riverboat or indian casino, you have a very high likelihood of raking in cash.
Think about what you just wrote though.
Isn't there a bet in craps that favors you very slightly?
I'm not sure on this, but I think it is the no pass bet.
I believe you are thinking of the "don't pass" bet.
This is in fact what happens if you put "odds" on your "don't pass" bet.
They wouldn't keep blackjack if it lost them money.
They have a small advantage but that assumes everyone is playing the perfect strategy.
Since that's not the case they will make money, and even a small advantage is still an advantage.
I've been playing low-stakes poker with friends for years, and occasionally blackjack, but I seriously don't understand why anyone would gamble at a casino and have any expectation of coming out ahead.
You can't even call it "gambling.
If it's entertainment you're after, go to the casino's show.
Thats because you've never gambled at a casino.
Some people just win at the casino when they go.
If you're one of the lucky people you begin to expect it even if its statistically incorrect.
And yes, it is gambling.
Its not a gamble for the casino, they always win factoring the huge volume they do.
But someone who goes ten times in their twenties and wins a couple hundred bucks each time is not a guaranteed loser.
The rush and excitement from winning money and being at a table with others winning and sharing in their excitement beats the hell out of any casino show I've ever seen.
Actually, I've been inside a dozen casinos with friends and relatives.
I even blow a few bucks in the slot machines, just for laughs.
But you're right, I don't gamble there, because there's no point.
I don't get any thrill from knowing full well that the more I risk in the long run, the more I will lose.
You actually believe that some people defeat the mathematics?
I'll bet the casinos are delighted to see you coming.
No, We are aware of the statistics obviously.
Slot matchines are boring as hell.
You're looking at it totally the wrong way.
No one goes really expecting to win.
Its for the social interaction and the chemical rush.
Blowing a couple bucks on slots is like going to a strip club and looking at the posters on the wall outside the club then leaving.
That's not what its about.
Everything sounds stupid when you just boil it down to math.
I am fully aware the statistics are against me.
I've been a few times maybe 5 times total in my lifeand I'm up about 300 total when all is said and done.
You probably wonder why do people go to bars?
Its going to cost them money.
Its a guaranteed loss of money.
The alcohol is bad for your health.
But people go anyway.
Because its fun, and we like the chemicals it sets off in our brain and the social interaction.
Actually, I don't go to bars.
I drink socially, but I do it at home, or at other people's houses.
I have a beer with meals when I eat out, but that's different.
Especially, the people I see sitting and drinking steadily by themselves in bars don't appear to me check this out be having fun.
I cant say I approve of people who spend the rent money or the child support money go here the casino, either.
I don't approve of encouraging any sort of addictive behavior, just so the government can earn taxes off of it.
No one is saying gambling addiction or spending money you don't have is a good idea.
Casino's can be fun though and they're not just for idiots who don't understand statistics.
Alcoholics and gambling addicts have serious problems.
Plenty of social drinkers go out to a bar and have a great time just like plenty of social gamblers go to a casino and have a good time.
There's a huge middle ground between addict and abstainer You're talking to one of the more pretentious, narrow-minded folk on the site.
I think you're misunderstanding a few of his points.
He's not directing this towards you.
And he's not talking about the blatant problematic cases people spending rent or support money.
He's talking about in general.
Money is there to spend.
You can be very smart with your money and still go to a casino.
You won't expect to win, but you're not there to win.
You're there for the experience.
The experience is not for everyone.
Yeah we get it, these "illogical" things are not for you.
The casino is playing in the long run, and you're right that making money is mathematically assured.
The player, however, is playing the short run.
Getting lucky doesn't mean beating the math, it means having the fortune of being one of the players who pushes the average winnings up rather than down.
Obviously that doesn't make gambling a good idea per se, but it is gambling from the perspective of the player, which is appealing to people.
Intellectually, I understand the appeal of believing, even temporarily, that the odds don't apply to you, just as, theoretically, I can understand the mindless appeal of drinking until you fall down.
I simply don't believe in submitting to those illogical and ultimately destructive drives.
Neither is "I'm going to drink until I'm unconscious.
Actually, I'm a little more ahead.
I have a longtime friend who earned pocket money all through college shooting pool.
He wasn't gambling, either.
Making a bad decision is equally likely to improve everyone else's hands as it is to harm them.
The times that "some idiot fucked it up for everyone" are irritating, and thus memorable, so it seems like bad decisions have a more reliable negative effect than they really do.
It's just at work.
Same reason people are so sure that the way they blow on the dice keeps them from rolling sevens, and other such nonsense.
Okay, when the last player on the table has a 13, with a dealer showing a 6, they should not hit, and when they do and get a 10, and the dealer flips a 10, then yes they fucked it up for everyone.
Yes, that is what I meant by confirmation bias.
Those are times you remember.
What about the times when they got a 5 and saved the whole table?
The point is that player decisions do affect other click to see more, but not in a predictable way.
Someone making a bad decision for their hand has no relation to the quality of that decision for everyone else.
I would agree with you, but I have sat at tables before where the same person will do stupid stuff like this over and over again.
That happens all the time, but my point is that the stupid stuff they're doing is only stupid for them.
The effect it has on you in random, but our brains trick us into thinking otherwise.
The other way to look at it to examine the effect a good player has on your hand.
A good hit is just as likely to take the dealer's bust card as a bad one, but everyone forgives them because they "had to" make the hit.
Yes, all of that is exactly correct.
Except the always assuming the hole card is a 10 thing, it's a rule of thumb but you shouldn't actually play like that if don't want to tank your odds.
You're missing my point.
At the time of action, a hit like that IS a stupid thing to do, but only for the player doing it.
The effect it has on the rest of the table is random.
If a player makes a bad move every time they can, as you describe, they are having NO effect on the odds for everyone else.
It's the same as blaming someone for tails coming up because they just flipped heads 5 times in a row.
Your brain wants to blame them for it, but it isn't their fault.
A lot of times see more someone usually third base hitting a hand they shouldn't, they have a 14, dealer has 6, they take the face, bust just click for source 24, the dealer flips a 16 and takes a 5, making everyone who doesn't have 21 lose, when if they would have stayed, the dealer would have taken the face and busted.
The thing is, that their "wrong" decision could have just as easily helped the table.
Say the get a 5 and the dealer gets the 10, the table would have lost had they not made the "wrong" play.
So really, no one should ever be mad about how others play.
I apologize if the word "fuckwits" offended you when I was generalizing the common public I had to interact with on a regular basis.
I absolutely hated being a dealer, it was the worst fucking job I ever held, and only recently I quit after 2 years of being stuck there Stuck meaning: I applied for other lower paying jobs to get the hell out of, to no avail.
I saw a lot of things there that still make me cringe thinking about it.
Also as a dealer you had to be "Professional" at all times, meaning no matter how heavy the shit got at your table, you had to put your best foot forward always.
It was mental torture I'm not saying its right to get mad at the guy, I'm just explaining how it can mess up the rest of the table.
This is what "fucking it up for everyone else" meant.
It just goes against the strategy of the game.
Everyone in this thread seems to be giving me heat for calling common people "fuckwits" fuck it up for everyone well, not everyone goes to a casino to make money or expects to.
I always steer clear of blackjack at the casino because I can't just play my gut when I feel like it because everyone else at the table will give you flack for it.
I stick to craps where I get to click other players and it's way more fun.
If you're playing blackjack, use the damn hit chart.
If you're playing baccarat, bet on the banker.
If you do these two things the house edge drops to not very much.
This article has one wrong thing in it though.
It says that you get paid 2:1 when you win a hand.
That's not true at all.
They pay even money when you win and 3:2 when you get a blackjack.
The only thing that usually pays 2:1 is insurance and any half brained blackjack player knows that's a sucker bet.
No it still doesn't make sense.
No you don't know how it works.
This isn't poker where you're calculating pot odds and the money you threw in isn't yours anymore.
So yeah, YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand gambling.
Played using this strategy last night.
At one point I was more than double my money.
But I kept playing.
They really aren't though.
Counting cards doesn't confer nearly as much of an advantage to the player as movies make it out to.
The odds can technically be in the players favor for short periods of time, but almost always by less than a percent.
Even that may only happen once every few shuffles, and only last for a few hands at most.
I know pretty much exactly how much it is.
The way you win to know how to act irrational and avoid the pit boss detecting you.
First off you can't bet statically static betting you can get a 1-2% advantage.
If you bet static yes its only a couple percent but dynamic and you can boost it.
The trick is to dump money early on get pegged as a crazy guy and get out before they know what happened.
The amount you bet does not "boost your odds".
You throw as much money as you can at hands where your advantage is highest, but that's playing the odds, not changing them.
Yes the amount you bet matters 100% when the odds are in your favor you up your bet.
When they aren't you back off.
You count the cards waiting for the count to go high.
That is true, and does not amount to "boosting" the odds.
Obviously you bet more when the count is up, because you are more likely to win than when it isn't.
That doesn't change the fact that you still have a 49.
XX% chance of losing that higher bet.
On that particular hand you DO have greater than a 50% chance of winning, and that is exactly why you increase your bet.
Unfortunately the only way to predict if you will get one of those hands is to count cards, and the math there is not exceptional for the player.
Right, you are capitalizing on your small advantage when you have it.
What I was trying to increasing your bet when you have an advantage does not boost the odds.
All you are doing is boosting your risk at an advantageous time.
You are still making a big bet that you have a ~49% chance of losing.
You do have a small advantage, but it is not by any means the sure thing that movies portray it to be.
You are still going be losing almost half of these big bets.
You might even get a bad run and just end up burning through your bankroll faster.
It is an this web page, but only a small one.
Counting requires a lot of time and discipline, and the point where it becomes advantageous to bet true 2 does not guarantee that you will will.
House advantage on a standard rule 8 deck game is 0.
As the count increases into the positive, the house advantage decreases, which means that the player advantage increases.
At a true count of +2, the player advantage is 0.
All that means is the odds of the outcome of a hand favouring have increased slightly, and does not guarantee a win.
I have seen many shoes with a stellar true count where patrons take a beating.
Card counting is best played as a consistant, patient system with a large enough bankroll to handle your losses, or on a team basis.
Source: Casino professional for 13+ years 90 percent of the tables I've played deal out of a shoe and are 6 wizard of odds blackjack sheet thick.
The other ones are single deck pitch and the dealer shuffles after every hand.
So trying to count 6 decks is near impossible, and counting a single deck on one hand is stupid.
All that a 6 deck shoe does is even out the count so it is less likely to have a high variance of the count.
Still trivial to do with basic addition.
If you can add a different number for each card you can still keep track of the count knowing if the odds are in your favor or in the houses favor.
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